tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985668569918053928.post1165808568172718352..comments2024-01-24T05:19:09.805-06:00Comments on This Game Of Games: David Reid Was A Better Writer Than ShakespeareJeffrey Kittelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02367989375750209078noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985668569918053928.post-21438951276795953992011-10-24T13:17:54.992-05:002011-10-24T13:17:54.992-05:00Thanks for that. I assumed the red paint thing wa...Thanks for that. I assumed the red paint thing was a reference to drinking but wasn't sure. Had no idea about the kite flying and was having images of Reid literally flying kites. <br /><br />I think I'm going to start using "red paint soiree" as a euphemism from now on. It sounds much better than "I'm going to the bar for a drink."Jeffrey Kittelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02367989375750209078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985668569918053928.post-17510881985007481872011-10-23T10:03:40.897-05:002011-10-23T10:03:40.897-05:00"Red paint soirees" means he was in the ..."Red paint soirees" means he was in the habit of going out at night and painting the town red. "Kite flying" is a little harder to explain, but in context it pretty clearly has the same meaning.David Ballnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985668569918053928.post-39330116439253064182011-10-22T14:37:13.485-05:002011-10-22T14:37:13.485-05:00The drinking stuff is never really a surprise but ...The drinking stuff is never really a surprise but I'm always happy to find any info on Reid. <br /><br />I'm fascinated by the guys who worked for VdA. It probably took a special kind of person to be able to work successfully with him and it's interesting to see what people like Reid or George Munson or Comiskey had in common and what traits they shared that allowed them to be succesful when working with such a demanding boss. Not everyone was able to work with VdA and lot of people didn't like the guy. I think it's useful to ask what the difference was between someone like Comiskey and someone like Ted Sullivan or Reid and Al Spink. <br /><br />Thanks for the info on Joe Campbell, although I still don't know what to really make of the phrase "kite flying expeditions and red paint soirees." Not sure what that really means.Jeffrey Kittelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02367989375750209078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985668569918053928.post-57067154239575908592011-10-22T01:43:05.729-05:002011-10-22T01:43:05.729-05:00Perhaps it's not that rare to discover that a ...Perhaps it's not that rare to discover that a relatively obscure 19th century baseball figure was a drinker. Joe Campbell, the Washington Post writer responsible for this item, himself died at age 34 of cirrhosis of the liver. <br /><br />Campbell was known for foisting quotations on "interview" subjects he had not really interviewed, and a phrase such as "often indulged in kite flying expeditions and red paint soirees" is an unmistakable specimen of his characteristic style. Brown may well have been the source for the story, as distinct from its literary form, but he lived in England and California until 1882 and did not play in St. Louis until the 1890's, so he can not have crossed paths much at all with Reid, who died in May, 1885. <br /><br />In the 1890's Campbell was a leading purveyor of Von der Ahe's image as a buffoon, wholesaling "humorous" stories like this one (which to my mind is somewhat closer to genuinely funny than most of them). Even so, when Von der Ahe was on his last legs Campbell wrote a couple of articles that recognized Von der Ahe as in reality an experienced and resourceful operator fighting stubbornly against overwhelming circumstances.<br /><br />Campbell would open an item with a phrase such as "Chris says..." secure in the knowledge that, nobody would have to ask "Chris who?" Chris had become a protoElvis, and no last name was needed.David Ballnoreply@blogger.com